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 Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?

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PostSubject: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:12 pm

surprise surprise. I was not expecting this.

Hey everyone.
These just started coming out today. 6 more to come.
I would love to know what everyone thinks.





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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:52 pm

Wow, definitely need pics of parents.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:19 pm

Do those parents have granite in them?
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:25 pm

Any guess what the parents are? Very Happy
Here's number 4! Super stoked I got 2 of these things. 5 more to go!!



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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:26 pm

The mom has granite.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:46 pm

idk about the pairing but they look like granite spider, granite pastel, and granite bumblebee? was the outcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:59 pm

Thats what I would think as well. Only problem is I dont have any spiders.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:04 am

Do you have any pinstripes?
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:09 am

no pins either
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:46 am

ok, im stumped.. lol. I've got granite and pretty sure about the pastel but other than that im clueless!
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:43 pm

Potential for retained sperm?
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:15 pm

Baby #5 should help things.


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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:54 pm

Here is baby #6
Loving the head pattern with the high "cheeks"? I guess you would call them lol.


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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:52 am

Spotnose maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:00 am

Woma or leopard in it?
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:21 am

No spot nose but good guess no one has brought that one up. No to the leopard yes on the woma.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:03 am

Another nice baby. Very very happy with this clutch.


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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:11 am

Woma was my next guess!! I haven't seen many people working with the Woma gene that often anymore which is a shame because it's a great gene! So, the genes in those babies are pastel, granite, and woma? I still cant figure out the parents lol
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:25 am

I agree about with the woma statement. I like womas a lot.
As for the parents. There is a secret ingredient that is missing in your calculation. Its coming tho. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:35 am

Enchi? Other than that I give up!
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:51 am

One more baby to go and its looking comfortable. So I thought I would throw a hint out there. This may be a game changer!




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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:40 pm

Last baby is taking its time and Im getting impatient. So..... Lets get in to the parents. The mother is the product of a Woma and a wild granite type and the father a pastel paired with a wild black belly type. Until this season I was unsure about the father.

What we have here are Woma granite pastel black bellies! Or Granite woma jackets! There is so much not done with the black belly gene. But.. This is just one more step on the path.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:28 pm

Nice! Blackbellies are new for me, nice combinations!
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:42 pm

Take a look at Yellow jackets. You can definitely see the similarities.
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:47 pm

Oh yea, definitely similar!
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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:46 am

Do do cretin circumstances. I am (for now) holding off on the "yellow jacket" and "black belly" lable. These animals were produced with a black belly type animal from wild caught origins. I stand by my belief that they are one and the same.
I will be returning to this issue as soon as a pastel x black belly with no added mutations is produced.
Stay tuned.......

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PostSubject: Re: Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?   Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:12 pm

Congrats!
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