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PostSubject: Still waiting...   Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:23 am

I'm very relieved that my bumblebee male, Jackson has finally decided to begin eating on his own. He's eating live rat fuzzies every 5-7 days. His sibling, a pastel named BillyJean is also eating well. Of course I have 3 babies that still will not eat on their own.

One hatched in June was around 65g at hatching. She was slow to start, then attacked food like crazy. Then after the move to our new apartment in August, she stopped eating. I've been having to assist feeder her every 2 weeks just to keep the weight on her. She's not really gaining, just staying around 60g. I've tried live, pre-killed, frozen/thawed (mice and rats). I might try and get an asf this weekend and try her on that.

The other two are from the same clutch. They were hatched in September and were around 50g each at hatching. The pinstripe went down to about 39g at one point. She refuses food each time, no matter what I put in front of her face. I've been assist feeding her, though you can barely call it assist feeding. Essentially I hold her head lighly and get the mouse's nose just inside the snakes mouth. Immediatly she constricts. It is the same way with her normal female sibling. They constrict the moment a prey item is placed in their mouth but they will not strike it and will not eat it if it just lays there. (I've tried putting the prey item and snake in a small dark container and it didn't work). Outside of offering asf I feel I've tried everything. These girls are just not interested. Now I will say that when the pinstripe got down to 39g, she had some neurological problems. She had a wobble much like the spider. Her last weigh in was at 52g empty and the neurological symptoms have disappeared. Their siblings, a spinner male and spider female, are well over 60g and are almost up to 70g. They'd eat a hotdog if I offered it.

I just don't know what to do with these 3 that won't eat. All of my other 2011s are doing well. Any advice on how to get these 3 to eat? As I said, I'm going to try live ASF this weekend to see if it sparks some interest. If they take to the asf, I might have to get a small breeding group.
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:45 pm

I would definitely try the ASF's. The way the little hoppers move and hop is amazing. I think you might get a better feeding response from them.
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:40 pm

I tried ASF hoppers on the 3 hatchlings that wouldn't eat (I forgot to ask for an ASF for the adult pastel I have that won't eat. I'll get him something on Thursday)

....and there was some success. The normal hatchling ate on her own for the first time and I couldn't be happier. It took her a little while but I just left her alone with it and came back about 30 min later and she was sitting there fat and happy as you please. The spider female also ate on her own. The pinstripe female is now the only hatchling holdout. She flat out refused it. She's gaining weight with her assist feeds, but very slowly. And she curls around the prey item the moment you put it in her mouth. You can barely consider it assist feeding, but she won't strike at anything.

I'm going to try again on Thursday and I'm hoping she takes it. She was not the least bit interested. But at least I got the other girls eating. And you were not kidding about the hop on those ASF. They were like popcorn. You touch them and they just shoot straight up. Crazy little critters. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:31 am

LOL, they defy the laws of physics.
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:22 am

Well....it worked! Last week I decided to get mouse hoppers and have them scented like ASF. Took them home and tossed them in the tubs of the Pinstripe, Spider, and Normal. I'm happy to announce that all 3 of them ate on their own. I'm very excited about this. Now the only snake I'm waiting on is my adult pastel, Thriller. He hasn't lost much weight since late November but he's flat out refusing food. Now that I'm not breeding any snakes, I'm hoping he snaps out of it and starts eating again. He's going into a shed cycle even though he's lost weight.
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:36 am

Congrats!!
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PostSubject: Re: Still waiting...   Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:40 am

Thanks. It is such a relief.
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